Re: This or That – By Mark Steyn – The Corner – National Review Online

The remainder fall into cutesie-pie stuff that John King lacks the personality to pull off, and the last embodied in its perfect post-modern stupidity the awfulness of these “debates”: “What have you learned during the past two hours?”

Hmm. What I learned is that John King makes Tim Pawlenty look like Lady Gaga. Other than that, I also got the distimct impression that this season’s debates seem unlikely to be effective forums even for acknowledging the profound and existential crises facing the nation, never mind addressing them

via Re: This or That – By Mark Steyn – The Corner – National Review Online.


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3 Responses to Re: This or That – By Mark Steyn – The Corner – National Review Online

  1. Eric says:

    There is only so much you can do with the 30 second sound byte Q&A format, but I thought CNN overall asked more illuminating questions than Fox did in their first debate last month (for instance, Fox refused to ask Cain about his support for TARP, it was the 2nd question CNN gave him) “This or that” was a bit too corny, but they
    made up for it by having a legally naturalized citizen ask the candidates what they would do to prevent illegals fro soaking up jobs, education dollars, and welfare.
    Also a nice touch having a retired military officer with three sons in harms way asking the question about our long term goals in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    The biggest problem to me is the format. You just can’t begin to address the depth and scope of Americas problems in 30 second soundbytes. T-Paw was the only one on the stage with a real plan that involves a goal and policy proposals to achieve it, but you wouldn’t know that by watching because there was no way he could even begin to discuss the details of his plan in the time allotted.

    Other than that my only real complaint was John King’s attempt to stir up a brouhaha between Romney and T-Paw. On the other hand, Pawlenty clearly made a decision not to attempt to draw blood from Romney in a state where he is incredibly popular, and that backfired: Romney judo flipped his half-hearted attack (that Obama used Romney’s plan as a blueprint for Obamneycare) to his own advantage.

    Overall, I thought Romney underperformed, Cain underwhelmed (his answer about Muslims… ouch), Bachman did a good job not looking crazypants in a state where a lot of people probably wonder if she is, Ron Paul gave the best answers but remained unelectable, and T-Paw did the best job selling his qualifications.

    The rest had their moments but did not really raise or lower their stock.

    I also was disappointed to realize that all the ones likely to be elected are way way more socially conservative than I like. I’d like Bachman a lot more if she didn’t simultaneously support a federal marriage amendment while pretending to be the embodiment of Tea Party virtues.

  2. godsowncrunk says:

    Ed Morrissey was good enough to write down every single question – you can see it at Ed thought the debate (or its format, it’s hard to tell) was terrible, and the other reviews I’ve read fall in line. CNN is a terrrible news outlet, and a day after the debate there was a kerfuffle raised by the rightosphere regarding CNN’s use of the word “wingnut” in headline about the debt ceiling featurings pix of Rubio, Palin and Gingrich. Donkeys are running an ad about why GOPers didn’t talk about jobs at the debate, but several questions addressed jobs and it seems like jobs would be the last thing Donkeys would want to call attention to.

    The reviews I’ve read of the debate (I made it about a minute in and the words coming out of Rick Santorum’s mouth drove me back to whatever it was I don’t remember watching) have been awful, and the consensus is that T-Paw blew it, Mitt won and Bachmann caught fire. The wonderfully awful and awfully wonderful thing about Bachmann is that the better she does and the stronger she gets, the more light that’s going to get spread on a number of seemingly incongruous positions she holds in respect her to advertised quasi-libertarian streak (I like her and she’s still above water on the TCS). Considering your’e the first person I’ve read to mention Cain speaks volumes about his performance – Conservatives, at least the kind I agree with, have much emotional spirit vested in Cain, and his performance was apparently unmemorable.

    Ron Paul: 4Chan’s Candidate. That’s all I have to say about that. 🙂

  3. Eric says:

    No argument from me re: CNN beng a terrible news network.
    I still think they pulled off a better debate than Fox.

    You want a good debate, put it on Fox Business, or make it 4-5 hours long and put it on CSPAN so me and 30 other Americans can watch it. Otherwise, you are going to get various levels suckage.

    re: Bachmann, I agree with every word you said.

    I don’t think T-Paw blew the debate, other than blowing one opportunity to directly attack Romney (he still attacked Romney though by pointing out his plan was so gawdafully liberal that Obama based his plan on it, and yes he used the word “Obamneycare” to describe it on stage with Romney standing right next to him, so the pundits who say he backed away from it are lying). Aside from that, T-Paw gave good answers that consistantly reflected his experience and success as a governor, and contrasted himself against the other candidates. His biggest flaw in the debate mirrors his biggest flaw as a politician: he’s not flashy or ethnic or a hot female. He did, however, demonstrate his ability to go on offense when he talked about Joe Biden. Granted, Biden is an easy target, but T-Paw savaged him pretty ruthlessly. I think Pawlenty held his own in the debate, but he didn’t make nearly as much headway as he needed to. Of course, that could be calculated: it is still early enough in the political season that a smart political operative might consider being the frontrunner undesirable.

    I like Cain and have been on the fence about making him the guy I support, but he keeps getting farther from that destination instead of closer.

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